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[OpenVerse] Re: UrlBot Needs f00d!!



In <Pine.LNX.4.21.0003301354090.979-100000@localhost.localdomain> Jack
writes:

> [MODERATORS NOTE: I AM NOT ALL THAT COMFORTABLE WITH BOTS IN THE
> MAIN ROOM AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME EVEN THOUGH THIS PARTICULAR ONE
> SEEMS LIKE IT HAS A USEFUL PURPOSE. I WOULD LIKE THE GROUP TO GIVE
> THEIR INPUT ON THIS ISSUE SO WE CAN GET A WIDE PERSPECTIVE OF THE
> SUBJECT]
> 
> I made a UrlBot!!
> 
> Hey if you want to include your url on the list bot.  Please only
> send stuff that is really usefull...  I'm adding a few popular ones,
> and i plan on adding search engine searches, like on freshmeat or
> slashdot or something.
> ...
> [stuff omitted]
> ...
> This is a useful bot, so please don't hate it. If you don't want to hear
> it or anything, just ignore it. it just sits and takes requests if it
> knows them. (it's not a very smart bot). Note this is not finished, but it
> works. It would prolly be better as a server hack, like the ort train
> user. So please, just ignore if bugs you for some reason. It is a quiet
> bot. It doesn't respond to a request it doesn't know period., so "UrlBot,
> JerkOff?", won't get a response out of it.
> 
> Hope this is useful, it is great in efnet->#linuxhelp (LinuxBot).
> 
> laters and thanks....
> -Jack

and in <Pine.LNX.4.04.10003301827360.25211-100000@mail.obscurasite.com> Jon
Winters writes:

> 
> Hmmm...  Bots eh?  Without having seen it I can't say if I like it or not.
> I do know that they can be annoying to new users.  I remember a newbee
> asking "why does that ORT dude just show up and say 'all aboard' then
> leave?"
> 
> Might be a good idea to have all bots "ignored" by default and add a bots
> sub menu under NAME. This would prevent newbee confusion without making an
> anti-bot rule.
> 
> Hope this feedback helps
> --
> Jon Winters http://www.obscurasite.com/

Comments:
1. It is a useful bot.  In many ways, a bot is preferable to am ORT
type server, since you can ask it for specific stuff.  I'd like to see 
it supported.

2. Jon's comment is right on the mark though: bots and the ORT are not
self explanatory to newbies.  I've got another suggestion: a button
(perhaps labelled "Accessories") which pulls down a menu to switch
bots/ORT off and on at the client.  Newbies don't need ORT right away,
and after they have read Help and chatted with the regulars, they
could be gently introduced to these topics.  I'd switch the ORT off
myself most of the time, but leave the bot switched on.

3. The bot needs to be moderated, i.e. send requests to Jack as
suggested, otherwise it is guaranteed to become loaded with crap.

4. I saw the bot come in last time I was on, clicked on it, realised
the URL wasn't of interest, and clicked it off.  The bot did not come
in (and shouldn't) too frequently nor does it annoy when it is
present.

Happy spring to all Northern Hemisphere denizens!

HighFlyer

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