Re: [OpenVerse] Speech and other sounds

[Alex Quintana <hillie@atonal.org>]

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On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Jon Winters wrote:
> /. had a story recently on a very early pre-alpha version of a 3D
> windowmanager.  Might be worthwile to join their developer mailing list
> and pay attention to how things are taking shape.  
> 
> I imagine the future where everyone has a 3D windowmanager and a OpenVerse
> like application has replaced the web browser. 

I must strongly disagree on this.  I have seen the images of this '3D' WM
and it looks, no offense and for lack of a better word, stupid, imo.

I mean, it has the apps as a flat screen that can be rotated.. just like
that OpenGL/3dfx or whatever front-end for MAME (Multi Arcade Game
Emulator).. but there is at least some purpose in the MAME frontend, like
where you can have a 3D rendition of an arcade machine and the screen is
tilted like it is in the arcade.

> The desktop becomes the OpenVerse.  The new graphics cards coming out
> today can handle the overhead of a 3D shell.  Why has everyone but the
> gamers remained in the Window Icon Mouse Pointer (WIMP) paradigm?  

because in games, there is a practicalness to 3D.  You can actually make a
3D game work.  Applications are generally 2D.  I mean, why doesn't Star
Division release a 3D version of Star Office? because it's not practical.

since most apps are 2D, it seems silly and unpractical to make a 3D WM,
when most things will still be flat.

as for 3D _applications_ .. just .... go watch jurassic park, in the part
where the little girl goes to the computer screen and says "This is a UNIX
system!! I know this!!" and it's some totally off-the-wall unrealistic 3D
view of directories or something, and definitely nothing like any UNIX
system I ever saw, but that's beside the point :)

just take a good look and think if you want that to be the future of the
desktop :) I certainly don't :)

I like the 2D mouse pointer and windows :)

but as to a 3D openverse type thing, that would be cool, and some things
like that do exist, and charge you a membership fee and stuff like that
(ie. Ultra Worlds, or something like that).. but it's not gonna happen in
tcl/tk :)

> Add too many cheesey features to OpenVerse and its going to start looking
> more like Microsoft "Bob" than the Metaverse.  (remember MS "Bob"?!?) :-)

I agree here. gotta be careful once you start talking about having sounds
for every single event and stuff like that :) don't wanna take it too far.

.auddpltes <<

       "...in whatever you do, if you can't break new ground, what's
                        the point?" - James Cameron

                       Hillie  (hillie@amigascne.org)
                           http://www.atonal.org/

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